Assurance véhicule au Canada..

[Tandem03]

Bonsoir,

Voyez peut-être avec Aaron : ATHUNONTOP@aol.com (Norshor Agency, Inc.)
Il devait m'assurer pour un peu moins cher que Mme Alessie, mais j'avais choisi cette dernière parce qu'elle parlait français et moi, pas anglais

D'autres casatrottistes ont été assurés par lui.

Amicalement,
Michel

[gremlins']

Hello

Aaron Thun n'assure plus les véhicules étrangers depuis plusieurs mois déjà .
Ce n'est plus la peine de le contacter.

J'ai eu au téléphone le" Lionsgroupinsurrance " voilà quelques jours ( voir le lien dans le post de Jean Paul page 1 ) , ils assurent les véhicules étrangers mais uniquement en Liability , c'est notre " tiers " français
Tarifs très intéressant
Mais impossible en tout-risques
Bon contact avec eux

Christian

[Tandem03]

Bonjour Christian,

Mes contacts avec Aaron datent de fin 2015 début 2016... Ça évolue vite !

Amitiés,
Michel

[NAYA EBT]

Bonsoir,

Encore une fois merci beaucoup Christian.

Voici un nouveau contact que nous avons par des amis. Voici le message qu'il nous a envoyé :

"Pour l'assurance USA Canada, tu peux contacter athunontop@aol.com en anglais c'est le moins cher pour être en règle mais c'est du tiers avec 500 000 $ en RC, il t'assure chez Progressive environs 200$ par an."

Nous ne l'avons pas encore contacté car nous attendions la carte grise du véhicule pour pouvoir faire toutes ces démarches. Comme cette drnière est arrivée cet après-midi nous allons pouvoir nous lancer dans l'opération casse-tête assurances dès demain !!!

Bien-sur nous vous tenons au courant.

bonne soirée à tous,

Et bien-sûr bonne après-midi à toi Christian si tu ouvre ce message tout de suite !!!

[NAYA EBT]

Bonsoir,

En fait ce contact est Aaron Athun et voici sa réponse ce soir :

"Hello,
I am sorry, I no longer provide insurance for International travelers.
Aaron Thun
Norshor Agency, Inc"

Nous allons donc voir avec Lions Insurances.

Bonne soirée

[gremlins']

Bonjour Christian,

Mes contacts avec Aaron datent de fin 2015 début 2016... Ça évolue vite !

Amitiés,
Michel

Oh oui Michel , ça évolue bien vite en ce moment.
Et ce problème d'assurances de véhicules étrangers devient un vrai casse-tête , avec actuellement plus que un seul assureur qui accepte de répondre favorablement.
Comme à chaque fois , les excès des uns pénalisent les autres .

Christian

[jes]

Bonjour
je suis dans la même galère que vous Glouglou sera a Halifax vers le 15 Mai , et il n est toujours pas assuré
Quelques infos : Alessie n est pas en retraite elle travaillait avec un assureur USA depuis 40 ans,qui du jour au lendemain lui a annoncé qu il n assurait plus les véhicules des touristes elle recherche un autre opérateur
voici un lien vers des assureurs potentiels
http://panamericanainfo.com/fahrzeugver ... a/?lang=fr
A+ Jes

[npc74]

Salut à tous,

Pour les suivants voici les dernières news:

Alessie: ne répond pas (retraite comme précédemment dit ? pas eu la confirmation aucun retour)

Chez Lionsgroup j'ai eu récemment de bons contacts avec cet agent: Jens Haselbhun, qui est un agent de Progressive (en Floride) (ref ci dessous)

Très sympa et réactif, il m'a demandé pas mal de détails sur le camion et la moto (il faut avoir un dossier bien documenté avec photos et tout le toutim). Je crois que si tout est clair et écrit et qu’il pense qu’on a bien tout compris pas de soucis il peut assurer nos montures (pour moi c’est un MAN 6x6) ; peut-être plus simple pour les petits ou les 4x4.

Résultats: à priori pas de problèmes ils peuvent l'assurer, en Liability c'est pas cher comme le dit Christian plus haut (520 US dollars par an pour le camion 70 dollars pour la moto, une petite 125)
Ils assurent aussi en Collision (ts risques) pour ceux que ça intéresse, moyennant je pense un dossier fourni très clair, avec deux versions, mais les tarifs montent vite (dans les 3500/4000 dollars annuels pour une couverture à hauteur de 200 000 boules) ; avec franchise à 5000 dollars

Il ne veut pas faire le contrat trop à l’avance, je dois le recontacter en Mars (pour une assurance qui débuterait fin avril) ; donc j’espère qu’il n’y aura pas de problème de dernière minute, ce n’est pas encore fait mais ça me parait en bonne voie

A noter quelques précisions utiles :
- Il ne demande pas d’adresse aux US et ne la met pas non plus sur son agence ou autre, l’adresse est celle du RV itinérant
- Paiement que par carte bancaire en l’appelant : il n’a pas besoin du code de sécurité
- Rabais en cas de Storage (de combien j’en sais rien, et compliqué car remboursement uniquement par … chèque !!) (Etonnant pour US)

Pour ceux que ça intéresse (je ne sais pas si tout passera) ci-dessous la carte de Jens H, les mails échangés (avec mon anglais très approximatif, mais à priori il le comprend !!) et la Quote pour RV et Moto en Liability




Mails échangés:

From: Jens Haselhuhn
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:09 PM
To: Nicolas PC
Subject: Re: RV Mr Poccard-Chapuis
Hi Nicolas,
please find attached the regular Quotes I can offer you for your recreational vehicle and for the 125ccm Bike.
One of them is full coverage, the second is comprehensive, and one with is liability only. Deductibles are both $5000 USD. This is the only deductible option the insurance company is willing to offer, since its an European vehicle and Bike.
We calculated the premiums with a value of $200,000 for your MAN Vehicle, and with only you as driver with valid, foreign driver’s license and since you travel with your car in the US and have no residence here, we also quoted the camper as “primary residence” and included the Full Timers package, which is mandatory for this kind of insurance.
We also excluded the “uninsured Motorist” coverage, since i believe that you already have a health insurance which covers the hospital bills in case something happens. (Please check this with your Health insurance!)
Offroad driving and excursions are not covered.
Please be advised, that this insurance only covers Alaska, Canada and the United States. Mexico is excluded.
Policies like this can be issued with an US Bank Account (Routing# and Account# and name on the Account) or with a regular European Credit Card (Card# + expiration date + sec Number)
All the Quotes and Policies are semiannual policies. A policy can only be cancelled midterm if proof of sale of the vehicle, export paperwork or proof of another insurance policy is provided to the insurance company. After the cancellation, you will receive a refund check – please talk with your bank in Europe if this check can be cashed there! There is no other option – only by check.
Depending on the start of your journey we would need to requote the offers, since we are not able to quote more than 4-6 weeks ahead. Please be advised that the premiums can change anytime! To issue such a policy – we would need copies of your drivers licenses, copies of the vehicle paperwork – and valid payment information.
Please feel free to contact me in any questions you have.
Best Regards,
Jens Haselhuhn

From: Nicolas PC
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:22 PM
To: Jens Haselhuhn
Subject: Re: RV Mr Poccard-Chapuis

Hi Mr Haselhuhn,

Thank you for your answer, for your précisions, and for the différent options
For me it's perfect, I have all the information and clarification I need

For the motorbike in liability it is ok for me

For the RV for simplicity I think to stay also in liability
I am aware that in case of complete coverage the repair of a European vehicle in North America costs a lot of money ( the repair parts do not exist in the USA and should come from Europe, and would be very expensive)
I don't want to create complicated problems, it's already nice to offer me this insurance, so in liability it will be perfect for me

In reply to your clarifications here is what I confirm you have understood:

"we also quoted the camper as “primary residence”
If I understand correctly that I have no address in the USA, the address of the contract is the RV itself, in itinerant tourism, is that right?
If yes no problem for me it is OK

"We also excluded the “uninsured Motorist” coverage ... (Please check this with your Health insurance!)"
Yes it is OK for me, we (the people) are covered for accidental medical problems even if the responsible vehicle is not insured

"Offroad driving and excursions are not covered" "Mexico is excluded"
OK i understand no problem for me

"Policies like this can be issued with an US Bank Account (Routing# and Account# and name on the Account) or with a regular European Credit Card (Card# + expiration date + sec Number)"
I do not understand exactly how to do it: I phone you with the numbers of my VISA bank card? (It's a bit annoying to write them by mail)
Is it possible to make a bank transfer directly to you? If yes, please give me the IBAN number of the account to be credited
I will prefer this solution if possible for you (if not no problems with the VISA card if no other solution)

"Depending on the start of your journey we would need to requote the offers, since we are not able to quote more than 4-6 weeks ahead"
Ok I understand.
It would be nice to start insurance around April 20: if I understand correctly I will contact you in the middle of March to refine the quotation and make the bank transfer for a year, is that right?

A precision please: the renewal every year is done automatically, just do you make the bank transfer?

Otherwise, is it necessary or useful to specify to you the periods during which the truck will be a few months immobilized in storage? (When we return to France)

"We would need copies of your drivers licenses, copies of the vehicle paperwork – and valid payment information"
OK for the valid payment information
Copies drivers licence and vehicule papework: You should have them in the documents attached the last time (I give you them as an attachment, no problem)

Thank you for taking the time for these details, but it is better for everyone that everything is as clear as possible.
Cordially
Nicolas


From: Jens Haselhuhn
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:10 PM
To: Nicolas PC
Subject: Re: RV Mr Poccard-Chapuis

Hi Nicolas,
That fine – I told you – if there are any questions – you can contact me.
I will answer your questions as shown below:

"we also quoted the camper as “primary residence”
Yes – If you have no residence in the United states – no house – no home – we need to declare the camper as primary residence. The Mailing address will be our office address. This is a special agreement between the insurance company and our agency - since normally nobody without a residence in the USA is able to get insurance coverage.

"We also excluded the “uninsured Motorist” coverage ... (Please check this with your Health insurance!)"
As I already said – please contact your insurance company in Europe to make sure Health insurance in USA is covered for the time of your trip.

"Policies like this can be issued with an US Bank Account (Routing# and Account# and name on the Account) or with a regular European Credit Card (Card# + expiration date + sec Number)"
Unfortunately there is no Option to transfer money from Europe with IBAN and BIC. This is only for transactions within Europe. In the United States most of the Banks have no IBAN or BIC – so you will not be able to transfer money to us. The only way to transfer Money would be an so called “Wire Transfer” but the fee for a transfer depends on the amount which is transferred. So this option would be more expensive. The easiest way to pay iss a creditcard. For that - I would need the creditcard Number and the expiration date – I don’t need the security Number from the back.

Please also keep in mind to give your bank of the CreditCard an Information that a payment from USA is coming. Most EU-Cards are blocked for payments in the USA. If – you are also able to fax this information to us – because of security matters/reasons.

“Depending on the start of your journey we would need to requote the offers, since we are not able to quote more than 4-6 weeks ahead”
Yes- middle of March would be great – so we still have enough time to recalculate the quotes and send you the final prices we can offer.

The renewal each year is not automatically. You will receive an Email from Progressive – and if you want to renew the policy – you will have to do a payment online, or you contact us and we will do the payment online for you, with your Card informations.

If you store the vehicle in the states – and leave the country, we can activate the “Garage Mode”. We reduce every coverage to the state minimum which is necessary (because you need to have insurance coverage) and you will be refunded prorated in form of a check. When you come back – we reactivate the insurance coverage to the chosen coverage as issued – but you have to give us the exact dates.

"We would need copies of your drivers licenses, copies of the vehicle paperwork – and valid payment information"
Yes – your are right. I already have all the paperwork (drivers license and registration).


I hope I answered all your questions – and if you have more – let me know. I would like to explain you everything necessary regarding insurance – so you will have a nice trip without headaches 

Best regards and greetings from Florida,
Jens Haselhuhn

From: Nicolas PC
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:53 PM
To: Jens Haselhuhn
Subject: Re: RV Mr Poccard-Chapuis

Hello,
Thank you very much for this précisions, all is clear for me
I will give you my Credit Card (VISA) number + expiration date, and I will notify my bank to avoid a security lock, no problem.
And to do every year after the mail received from Progressive

And I will send you the exact dates of flights when we return to France and then return to the USA, leaving the truck in the US in a storage (well if I do not forget !!)
Health insurance in USA: OK understood
I will therefore contact you at the beginning of March for the final quote and the payment, ij it's OK for you ?
Thank you very much and have a good winter by then

Nicolas Poccard-Chapuis
PS: Here the temperatures are not the same as in Florida, photos attached!


From: Jens Haselhuhn
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:07 PM
To: Nicolas PC
Subject: Re: RV Mr Poccard-Chapuis

Hi Nicolas,
Thank you for this beautiful pictures. I originally come from Germany so I know how beautiful the winter over there can be.
I showed the pictures to my Floridian coworkers and I should say to you, that they are very jealous because they never saw something like that 
I’m looking forward to hear from you in march – if there are any questions by then, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Jens Haselhuhn

From: Nicolas PC
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:32 PM
To: Jens Haselhuhn
Subject: Re: RV Mr Poccard-Chapuis

Perfect, good day at all !
Nicolas

Quotes:

[Pierre]

Je serais curieux de voir préciser ce qu'on entend par "offroad driving", car si tu dois rester sur le goudron cela limite les escapades en particulier à moto
Des exemples de parcours seraient à considérer comme "Top of the world Hwy, quelques circuits dans Death Valley ou parcs nationaux

[NAYA EBT]

Merci beaucoup Nicolas pour toutes ces infos. Jens est le contact que nous avions eu et nous attendions la carte grise du véhicule pour pouvoir avoir une quotation. Nous pourrons vous donner les résultats courant semaine prochaine pour un comparatif.

Bon week-end à tous.

[npc74]

Je serais curieux de voir préciser ce qu'on entend par "offroad driving"

Salut,

Pour les tracks (pistes) c'est bon, c'est le off road complet qui n'est pas pris (probablement du genre tonneaux dans les dunes si tu es en tous risques)
En Liability ça ne change pas grand chose (sur pistes peu de risques d'accident avec un tiers, mais ça peut arriver, comme Hirvonen au Dakar qui s'est pris un camion ... (enfin ça ne doit pas être les mêmes vitesses !

[El Caracol]

Je serais curieux de voir préciser ce qu'on entend par "offroad driving", car si tu dois rester sur le goudron cela limite les escapades en particulier à moto
Des exemples de parcours seraient à considérer comme "Top of the world Hwy, quelques circuits dans Death Valley ou parcs nationaux

@ Pierre; N'oublie pas que la Top of The World (goudronnée) tout comme la Dalton (non goudronnée) sont des Highways !
Les pistes comme la White Rim, la Cottonwood ... sont des "roads" Donc par "Off Road" il faut entendre "hors piste" !

Denis

[Fernand]

Merci à tous ceux qui se démènent pour trouver une assurance au Canada, mon projet de départ tient toujours vers Halifax début mai, je n'ai pas le temps de m'en occuper car mon pickup est accidenté dans les hauts de France et la réparation (pas trop grave) tarde...

[Pierre]

Merci npc74 et Denis c'est rassurant

[dakure]

Merci à tous ceux qui se démènent pour trouver une assurance au Canada, mon projet de départ tient toujours vers Halifax début mai, je n'ai pas le temps de m'en occuper car mon pickup est accidenté dans les hauts de France et la réparation (pas trop grave) tarde...

Ben mince alors...

[gaetan]

Ce petit lien de Mai 2016 peut sans doute vous intéresser si vous arrivez au Canada :

http://faistesvalises.com/index.php/201 ... anada-usa/

J'ai des amis qui se sont retrouvés dans le dernier cas avec un Land immatriculé en plaques françaises .

[pilfra60]

Je pense arriver mi Avril à los Angeles via Seabridge.
J'ai eu pierre Gerardy au télephone hier soir qui m'a confirmé qu'il ne pouvait plus assurer de véhicule immatriculé à l'etranger.
J'ai contacté:
Sue Blood
International Insurance Sales
Thum Insurance Agency L.L.C.
Michigan - Main Office: 1.800.866.0777
Michigan Fax: 1.616.957.1204
International Phone: 001.616.957.2400
International Fax: 001.616.957.1204
Office Hours: 9 AM to 5:30 PM Eastern Time

voici sa réponse:

Hello Francois,

Thank you for contacting Thum Insurance Agency L.L.C. to obtain an insurance quotation for your international motor home traveling in the USA and Canada. Thum Agency provides a comprehensive insurance package for international clients who will bring their foreign motor homes to Canada and the United States for travel. Thum Agency can provide insurance for you as long as you have an International Driver’s License or a national license in good standing. Your motor home must have the following: cooking, sleeping and bathroom facilities – self-contained. We may require photos of the interior to show the cooking, bathroom and sleeping facilities. The motor home must be less than 20 years old as of the date of policy inception.

Our insurance package includes the following coverage which will cover you for travel in the USA and Canada. This is a Full Coverage insurance package that will cover you for Liability to others persons and their property, damage to your motor home, and other specialized coverage for the recreational vehicle owner. This policy will also cover your motor home while it is in storage only if the vehicle is stored in the USA. The motor home must come into the USA for travel at some time during the policy period (you cannot just travel in Canada with this policy).

Policy : USA and Canada

To prepare an insurance price for insurance for your travel in the USA/Canada you can fax or e-mail the completed application to me and then I will e-mail you the cost. The insurance cost is based on the current value of the motor home in U.S. dollars. We have a 3, 6, 9 and 12 month policy plans available depending on the amount of time you need the insurance. Payment is required in full using a Visa or MasterCard. The policies can be extended at the end of the original term for an additional 3, 6, 9 or 12 months. If you have more than one motorhome, you will need to complete the form for each vehicle.

Our insurance package includes the following coverage which will cover you for travel in the USA, Canada and limited Mexico.

Bodily Injury/ Property Damage Liability $ 500,000 (Optional $1,000,000 available)
Uninsured/Underinsured Motorist Liability $ 500,000
Medical Payments $ 5,000
Collision Deductible $ 1,000
Comprehensive Deductible $ 1,000
Emergency Expense $ 750
Vacation Liability $ 10,000
Personal Effects (replacement cost) $ 5,000
Towing To The Nearest Repair Facility Included
Mexico Physical Damage Coverage** Collision and Comprehensive coverage only in Mexico Included
Canadian Insurance ID card Included
Storage Coverage in the USA only Included

** Please note that if you will be traveling in Mexico, YOU MUST PURCHASE MEXICO LIABILITY before going into Mexico. This coverage can be purchased though our office for an additional cost.

Thum Insurance Agency would be pleased to assist you with insurance for your international motor home during your travels. Please fax or e-mail me the completed forms so I can prepare the insurance cost for you. I can issue the policies once I have a signed application which I will provide to you and payment in full for each policy using a Visa or MasterCard. Thum Insurance Agency can provide the coverage you need. Please let me know if you have any questions. I look forward to working with you soon.

Thank you,

Sue Blood

Je crois que Seabridge propose ses assurances via cette compagnie?Quelqu'un peut confirmer?

Bonnes recherches et merci pour le partage.

françois

[pilfra60]

Pour completer:

Attention : il est précisé que le véhicule doit arriver aux USA

[Merou louche]

Je pense arriver mi Avril à los Angeles via Seabridge.
J'ai eu pierre Gerardy au télephone hier soir qui m'a confirmé qu'il ne pouvait plus assurer de véhicule immatriculé à l'etranger.
J'ai contacté:
Sue Blood
International Insurance Sales
Thum Insurance Agency L.L.C.
Michigan - Main Office: 1.800.866.0777
Michigan Fax: 1.616.957.1204
International Phone: 001.616.957.2400
International Fax: 001.616.957.1204
Office Hours: 9 AM to 5:30 PM Eastern Time

voici sa réponse:

Hello Francois,

Thank you for contacting Thum Insurance Agency L.L.C. to obtain an insurance quotation for your international motor home traveling in the USA and Canada. Thum Agency provides a comprehensive insurance package for international clients who will bring their foreign motor homes to Canada and the United States for travel. Thum Agency can provide insurance for you as long as you have an International Driver’s License or a national license in good standing. Your motor home must have the following: cooking, sleeping and bathroom facilities – self-contained. We may require photos of the interior to show the cooking, bathroom and sleeping facilities. The motor home must be less than 20 years old as of the date of policy inception.

Our insurance package includes the following coverage which will cover you for travel in the USA and Canada. This is a Full Coverage insurance package that will cover you for Liability to others persons and their property, damage to your motor home, and other specialized coverage for the recreational vehicle owner. This policy will also cover your motor home while it is in storage only if the vehicle is stored in the USA. The motor home must come into the USA for travel at some time during the policy period (you cannot just travel in Canada with this policy).

Policy : USA and Canada

To prepare an insurance price for insurance for your travel in the USA/Canada you can fax or e-mail the completed application to me and then I will e-mail you the cost. The insurance cost is based on the current value of the motor home in U.S. dollars. We have a 3, 6, 9 and 12 month policy plans available depending on the amount of time you need the insurance. Payment is required in full using a Visa or MasterCard. The policies can be extended at the end of the original term for an additional 3, 6, 9 or 12 months. If you have more than one motorhome, you will need to complete the form for each vehicle.

Our insurance package includes the following coverage which will cover you for travel in the USA, Canada and limited Mexico.

Bodily Injury/ Property Damage Liability $ 500,000 (Optional $1,000,000 available)
Uninsured/Underinsured Motorist Liability $ 500,000
Medical Payments $ 5,000
Collision Deductible $ 1,000
Comprehensive Deductible $ 1,000
Emergency Expense $ 750
Vacation Liability $ 10,000
Personal Effects (replacement cost) $ 5,000
Towing To The Nearest Repair Facility Included
Mexico Physical Damage Coverage** Collision and Comprehensive coverage only in Mexico Included
Canadian Insurance ID card Included
Storage Coverage in the USA only Included

** Please note that if you will be traveling in Mexico, YOU MUST PURCHASE MEXICO LIABILITY before going into Mexico. This coverage can be purchased though our office for an additional cost.

Thum Insurance Agency would be pleased to assist you with insurance for your international motor home during your travels. Please fax or e-mail me the completed forms so I can prepare the insurance cost for you. I can issue the policies once I have a signed application which I will provide to you and payment in full for each policy using a Visa or MasterCard. Thum Insurance Agency can provide the coverage you need. Please let me know if you have any questions. I look forward to working with you soon.

Thank you,

Sue Blood

Je crois que Seabridge propose ses assurances via cette compagnie?Quelqu'un peut confirmer?

Bonnes recherches et merci pour le partage.

françois

Oui pour SEABRIDGE il y a un dossier a compléter, Demande leur ou passe moi ton mail, je te ferai passer ce dossier PDF.

[Fernand]

Seabridge propose bien une assurance pour le Canada mais à un prix prohibitif...

[npc74]

Bjr

Je confirme Seabridge dossier simple pour assurance, mais tarif détonnant ...

[pilfra60]

Pierre Gerardy m'a envoyé un sms avec les coordonnées de deux courtiers US
A essayer éventuellement.
Je suis en attente de mon permis international pour constituer mon dossier.

Mountain Laurel Insurance 1-440-461-6490

et
une courtière en Arizona
Roxanne Peroldo 1-520-505-4292

malheureusement pas d'adresse email...

[Pierre]

Pierre Gerardy m'a envoyé un sms avec les coordonnées de deux courtiers US
A essayer éventuellement.
Mountain Laurel Insurance 1-440-461-6490

Attention, ERREUR sur ce numéro qui est celui d'un particulier qui n'a pas de rapport avec les assurances
Le numéro général de la société est 1-440-461-5000

[pilfra60]

Merci Pierre pour la précision.

[pilfra60]

Bonjour ,
Pour mieux comprendre l'assurance pour les RVs aux USA ,j'ai trouvé ce site.
Détails sur les différents stades d'assurance
http://www.rv-dreams.com/rv-insurance-c ... html#Basic
Si je comprends bien sur devis de Lionsgroup insurance

Cotisation pour un véhicule d'une valeur de 110000$
Garanties aux tiers 498$
Dommage aux tiers 180$
Assurance conducteur (et passager?) 204$
Pour l'équivalent d'une tout risques en France ,il faut prendre le niveau collision coverage 1366$
pour rajouter vol,incendie,catastrophes naturelles il faut rajouter la garantie compréhensive coverage.283$

Et ce n'est que pour 6 mois soit 422$ par mois.


Ci dessous la proposition via Seabridge
le tarif varie selon la franchise et le montant des garanties.



Si cela continue ,je vais retourner travailler quelques mois pour me payer des vacances.